(by Hunchback Jack & others│Revised version)
This is a board for all of those that enjoy classic Dune, and DO NOT accept the novels of Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson as Dune. We believe that Frank Herbert's Dune is and should be considered a Classic Masterpiece of American Literature, in the same rank as works of Twain, Hemingway, Pound, Faulkner etc.
Jacurutu is a message board for discussing the original six books of Frank Herbert's Dune series : the Dune Chronicles. We discuss the books, the characters, the themes, and get into more details than you can image. We also discuss other Dune sources, such as the Dune Encyclopedia, Frank Herbert's other books, and topics completely unrelated to Dune.
In addition to our common respect for Frank Herbert's work, we also have a common dissatisfaction with the new Dune novels of Kevin J. Anderson. Among our members, this dissatisfaction ranges from a simple refusal to read the books to intense fury whenever the books are even mentioned. You'll quickly figure out where members lie in that spectrum.
Everyone is welcome to join the discussion. You don't have to know everything about Dune to participate, you just have to like the original Dune Chronicles and want to talk about it. A healthy dislike for the new Dune books is not required, but it is greatly recommended.
Jacurutu was created as a haven for the people cast out from other forums for criticizing the new Dune books.
When the new Dune novels were first published, not everyone was happy with the result, and many said so on many existing Dune forums. As more books were published, the dissatisfaction grew, and the criticism became more pronounced.
Some of these forums, including the defunct official Dune forum, started deleting posts that were too critical, and then started banning members for posting negative comments of the new Dune books (2007).
At Jacurutu, members can vent their frustration about how bad the new books are without fear of censorship or ban from the forum. But, first of all, we strongly encourage all to share their reflections and post positive comments about Frank Herbert's Chronicles and other original works.
It would take many thousands of lines to explain all the ways that the new books do not measure up to the original six books, and the best way to get all the details is to read the forum. But here are the basic objections we have:
There has been a long history of animosity between the authors of the new dune series and their detractors. This is partly due to the way that the Dune books have been presented to Dune fans, and partly due to the actions of the authors themselves. On our part, we feel a great deal of anger toward Kevin J. Anderson in particular, for the following reasons:
WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE STAND FOR
That's how I wrote the novel, wanting you to participate with the best of your own imagination. I did not aim for the lowest common denominator and 'write down" to anyone. You and I have a compact and my responsibility is to entertain you as richly as possible, always giving you as much extra as I can. I assume you are intelligent and will enlist your own imagination. You'll see that when you read the Dune excerpt and the other stories in this collection.
~Frank Herbert, Intro to Eye
Looking back on it, I realize I did the right thing instinctively. You don't write for success. That takes part of your attention away from the writing. If you're really doing it, that's all you're doing: writing. There's an unwritten compact between you and the reader. If someone enters a bookstore and sets down hard earned money (energy) for your book, you owe that person some entertainment and as much more as you can give. That was really my intention all along.
~Frank Herbert, Intro to Heretics of Dune
First, a little about me. I first read Dune at age thirteen in 1984, just before the David Lynch movie hit the big screen, and was immediately hooked. I caught up with the series soon afterwards and read Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse: Dune as they were published. Then I read everything else FH wrote that I could find. I even read the entire Dune Encyclopedia complied by Dr. Willis McNelly. I was devastated when I learned of my new favorite author's death. Since then I've read the series roughly once a year,give or take.
Years later came the internet and discussion forums. I lurked at Dreamers of Dune for about a year, afraid to expose my ignorance, but after building up the courage to chance participating in the discussion I found that I was gaining credibility in knowledge of the Dune series and became an active member. DoD eventually died and since then I've been a fixture in whatever Dune forum(s) was the most active, sometimes in multiple forums. Sometimes as a member, sometimes as moderator or administrator.
Eventually in 1999 I was thrilled to read news that Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson were planning to continue the series. I eagerly bought and read the new Dune books and was sorely disappointed to say the least. I could have tolerated the abysmal writing if the authors had bothered to pretend they understood Frank Herbert's books and remained consistent with his themes and details. I wouldn't be surprised if I found out the new authors haven't even read the originals.
When the Herbert estate opened a Dune Novels bulletin board in 2006, I immediately joined and voiced my disdain, for which I was immediately banned. I emailed the administrator, Frank Herbert's grandson Byron Merritt, and upon apologizing for personally insulting the authors and promising to refrain from doing it again was allowed to rejoin the forum. There I proceeded to make 5,691 posts before eventually being banned again and am still, years after being banned, the leading poster there.
I wasn't the only one banned for voicing their negative opinions of the new books, not by far. Most of the knowledgeable people I'd come to know in the Dune fan community felt the same way I did and the Dunenovels standard operating procedure for dealing with negative comments is to ban the member. Eventually this lead to only the most mindless discussion there and I saw an opportunity for a new Dune fan forum where members would not be censored. So I started Jacurutu, named after the Cast Out in Children of Dune. This leads to...
First of all, this is not an anti-KJA/BH forum. This is a FH's Dune fan forum.
However, current events in the world of Dune have drawn fire towards the new authors for what many fans consider raping and milking FH's legacy for profit, and that is the topic du jour. If I had my way, we'd only be discussing FH's works but one of the ideas this forum was founded on was to let the discussion take it's own course without censorship. So that is the way it goes.
Contrary to what some might say, we are not against the continuation of the Dune series in any medium. We are against BADLY continuing Dune in any medium. The Herberts have hired a notorious hack to bring them a steady paycheck with a total lack of respect for the deep and serious ideas and themes present in FH's legacy and have turned it into a McDune franchise. It's a shame that none of the many qualified, GOOD authors have not had a chance to do FH's legacy justice. At least, if they aren't going to give a real author a shot, they should stop defiling Dune with the pulp space opera crap they've been churning out.
Well, that's the gist of it.
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